Creating a New Path: Finding Courage When the Old Way No Longer Fits with Chelsea O'Boyle

In this episode, Jill is joined with Chelsea O'Boyle, an occupational therapy practitioner, mom of two, and new entrepreneur, to talk about something so many high achievers are facing—burnout.

Chelsea shares her powerful journey of stepping away from a traditional healthcare role to pursue a more aligned, purpose-driven path. Together, they unpack the pressure of perfectionism, the fear of letting go, and the courage it takes to build something new when the old way no longer fits.

Some Key Takeaways:

• Insight on how to recognize and navigate burnout
• Encouragement to listen to your inner voice—even when it’s scary
• Permission to pursue passion over perfection
• Practical takeaways for embracing change with intention

If you're craving more authenticity, balance, and fulfillment in your life and work—this episode is for you.

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Jill O'Boyle (00:02.804)
Well, hello everyone and welcome back to another episode of your life your story rise up I'm your host Jill O'Boyle and I thank you so much for joining me today Thank you for all those who continue to keep coming back. I so appreciate it Today we have a very special guest joining us today Chelsea O'Boyle. Yes, you heard that right. We have the same last name

And funny enough, this is a funny story. Chelsea is actually married to my husband's cousin, but this is actually the first time that we are officially meeting in person. And so in a way, I think this episode is not only just about her sharing her story, but I think it's like a much needed long overdue, like family introduction. Like when you leave it to the women to just say, we're going to take charge of this and we're going to introduce ourselves without our spouses, right? So.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (00:53.184)
Yes, I love it.

Jill O'Boyle (00:55.726)
Yes, so welcome, Chelsea. Before we dive in, let me introduce you a little bit. Let me share a little bit about you. So you are a board certified, registered and licensed occupational therapy practitioner. Chelsea is also a mom of two little boys, a new business owner who took the leap into entrepreneurship at the start of this year. And so she's here to talk about something I think so many of us can relate to, burnout.

especially in high achieving careers like the healthcare industry. And so we're gonna dive into the pressures of perfectionism, the struggle of balancing personal and professional life and the courage it takes to just step out and create something new when just that traditional path no longer aligns. And so Chelsea's journey really is all about humanizing healthcare professionals, breaking down barriers and proving that you don't have to wait for the perfect time to go after what you truly

want. Amen to that sister. So let's dive in. I am excited about this episode. I hope you are too everyone. So let's just get to it and welcome Chelsea.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (01:55.116)
Yes.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (02:04.11)
Hi, I am so so so excited to be on here. I have been a long time follower of this podcast, not just because you are family, but because I felt like you were kind of speaking to things that I knew was deep down, but I wasn't ready to like, address it. So sometimes it would be hard to hear and I wasn't ready to hear it until God was like, it's, it's time. And now I feel like the timing is right. And I'm so glad I'm here to share this message because I feel like

Jill O'Boyle (02:19.489)
Mm.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (02:33.57)
Like you said, so many people in healthcare can really relate to this feeling of burnout or even if you're not in healthcare.

Jill O'Boyle (02:38.709)
Yeah. Yeah. I love that. And you know, you're so right. think God, God always knows our right timing. He always knows our divine connections. And I remember when I brought this up to Jack, he's like, wait, Chelsea, boy, like my cousin's wife, you guys are what? What's happening? And I was like, yeah.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (02:52.258)
We love

Jill O'Boyle (02:56.097)
And I was like, and I think that's the greatest thing about podcast. And I, that's why I love hosting podcasts. Cause I never know who I'm reaching or who I'm connecting to or that you were even listening. So A, thank you for your obedience and like, you know, reaching out and connecting through social. And then I just listened to this Holy Spirit subtle nudges and I just heard, Hey, why don't you ask her if she would like to come on as a guest? And you were like, absolutely. So here we are, which I think is, I think is awesome. And I think the reason too, why I wanted to

for us to connect and share is, I think your story is so relatable. And I think so many high achieving, high achievers struggle with burnout. They feel stuck in a system that just doesn't align with their values. And so I was curious from you, because I found myself in that very same story. What was that moment for you? Like, when did you know that you just couldn't keep going? And, and

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (03:30.254)
Yes.

Jill O'Boyle (03:53.942)
Was there ways that you were able, what was the biggest thing that you did to kind of make that change?

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (04:00.748)
Yeah, so I think that most people would probably agree that whenever you hit the rubber of the road, kind of, can't avoid it. And I felt like I was at that point where I was sitting in front of, know, management and I was talking to them about sort of my plans and what it would look like for the future. And, you know, I've been in rehab for over 10 years. So I...

you know, initially as a recreational therapist and then as an occupational therapist. So I've seen a lot of rehab. I've been in a lot of facilities and I've seen it all essentially in a very, short amount of time. And, I was basically in a situation where they were trying to provide me an offer and the offer to me was not an offer. mean, it was going to lack my quality of life. It was going to only benefit one side of the relationship.

Jill O'Boyle (04:39.797)
Mm-hmm.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (04:57.644)
and I had expressed, you know, what my core values were and what I really wanted to achieve long-term and it just wasn't aligning and I'm thinking, okay, like I'm gonna either go back on the loop here of the rat race and I'm gonna hop on the wheel again for another 10 years if I keep going down this road because here we are and I've done literally everything. I was at my peak. I felt like I had done so many things. I was showing I was about to specialize in

neuroscience, I was showing that I was ready to help out with others, ready to lead, ready to work any shift, weekends, holidays, evenings, I was going to be available to cover anybody. mean, literally anybody. And once I got to that point, I came home and I turned to my husband and I just said, I can't do this anymore. And it just, came to a point where I was like, this is going to break me.

as a person. And once I knew that it was hitting the core of me as like my value, and my worth, and it was starting to deteriorate, like my mental ability to carry on when I'm so passionate about it, about what I do. But it was starting to dim that light because I was feeling all of this extra stuff over me like an umbrella that was just making it very, very cloudy. And I was like, No, this isn't this

Jill O'Boyle (06:21.109)
Mm-hmm.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (06:24.438)
should never be worth that like ever. Like I should never have to worry about, know, am I good enough? Am I doing all the things, you know, I was going to a point where I was meeting not just productivity, but I was exceeding that. I know we'll get to that later, but, a lot of healthcare is driven on numbers and I know a lot of businesses, but in a service where you can't put a number on patient care, I mean,

Jill O'Boyle (06:52.213)
Right?

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (06:53.428)
It was getting to the point where my sessions were 15, 20 minutes. And what can you achieve with quality in that amount of time? So it basically took my husband and I don't mean this in like, you know, think that he gave me permission, but he almost allowed me to take space to just be okay with finding a different path. Yeah.

Jill O'Boyle (06:58.943)
Hmm

Yeah.

Jill O'Boyle (07:17.953)
Yeah, yeah. Well, thank you for sharing that. I have heard, and especially, you know, since COVID too, but I'm sure it's been an ongoing thing even before COVID. But I have, you know, friends and acquaintances in the area that have been in healthcare. And when I mentioned burnout, they're always the first ones to say, you haven't seen anything since you've seen the healthcare. And so I know in your story, you've been in...

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (07:21.29)
Thank

Jill O'Boyle (07:48.189)
large corporations in the healthcare industry into smaller maybe. in throughout the board, are you seeing that across?

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (07:56.856)
Yeah, it doesn't matter where you work. And that's why I don't really pick on big corporations. I don't pick on small brick and mortars. really don't. I think it's a healthcare system issue as a whole. I'm seeing more physicians now starting to say if nothing changes, nothing changes. And I'm seeing more people speaking out about it. Social media is such a powerful tool. And I feel like we're starting to see more progress in that way.

calling out insurance and what the line is in dictating what is clinicians we are supposed to be doing with our patients. And I think that is a driving force. Unfortunately, healthcare is a business. So we do see that that is a push. So I think that that is really where a lot of this.

Jill O'Boyle (08:29.429)
Mm-hmm.

Jill O'Boyle (08:40.98)
Mm-hmm.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (08:44.462)
pressure is coming from, try to see both sides because I don't think that it's like an evil intent thing. I think it really is just coming from, you know, they're trying to make a profit. And I understand that. But at what price? mean, and I think I got to a point of at what price and I, I also saw my co workers going, I see the price, but I can't afford to step away. Like this is all my family has, you know, so

Jill O'Boyle (08:57.269)
right? Yeah.

Jill O'Boyle (09:08.989)
Mm-hmm. Right. Right.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (09:11.68)
It's not for everybody to step away and I'm not saying you should if you feel like you see those things because that's specific to everybody's situation.

Jill O'Boyle (09:16.575)
Mm hmm. Yeah.

Right. And it's so hard when your values are contradicted. And I think a lot of people in the medical industry, their reason for going in that is from true compassion and a heart to contribute and to help others. And when you are then stuck in a position of, OK, I am helping people, but I am not to the extent of helping them because we have the volume and the productivity and the numbers. So I can see where that is being crossed.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (09:31.149)
Yes.

Jill O'Boyle (09:49.58)
So you talk about this facade of perfectionism in healthcare. So can you share what that looks like in your field and how it's kind of impacted both professionals and the patients?

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (09:59.502)
100%. This is one of the parts that I bring true the most, I think, because I am a perfectionist to a degree, but I'm not at the point of sacrificing my mental health. I worked in the ICU. I worked in the critical side of things. And then I also worked in your outpatient orthopedic procedures, which is very simple, cut and dry for us as therapists.

Jill O'Boyle (10:25.161)
Mm-hmm

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (10:27.672)
The whole point of explaining that is just that you see a lot of trauma throughout the day in different levels. And I think when you go through things as a healthcare professional on a daily and you're expected to perform like nothing has happened, you can only do that for so long. I would contribute it to having PTSD, having anxiety, having depression because you can't.

Jill O'Boyle (10:48.064)
Yeah.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (10:56.43)
you're not allowed to feel, just supposed to, you have to focus on the patient and what's in front of you. And that is the most important thing at that moment. But I think what their plan is right now for helping their employees has really suffered. And I think you see that in any discipline, not just in therapy, doctors, nurses, know, that this note of, you know, as healthcare professionals, we're held to a higher standard. We're supposed to be like,

Jill O'Boyle (11:16.084)
Yeah.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (11:25.826)
you know, the most professional, the most culturally acceptable, you know, it doesn't matter if you have, you know, been in jail, it doesn't matter if you have, you know, done anything harmful to people, we're supposed to you all the same, regardless of where we're at. So it is really, really hard sometimes to just act like those things don't bother you throughout the day. So it really just is.

Jill O'Boyle (11:38.827)
Yeah.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (11:54.35)
humanizing to the fact that we're all the same as any type of civilian in the world. And it just, comes down to really lowering the veil and just saying, hey, I'm not gonna show you everything obviously, part of my life, but it's good to show that there is some realness there behind it that these doctors are struggling to these.

Nurses are struggling, these therapists are struggling, and we're all doing our best to maintain in a system that is not doing the best for either side.

Jill O'Boyle (12:25.407)
Mm-hmm.

Jill O'Boyle (12:30.707)
Yeah, right. Yeah. So do you feel like your authenticity was almost like compromised and kind of having to wear a mask a lot? Yeah. Yeah.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (12:36.748)
Yes, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And now that I've kind of stepped in, you know, to a whole different realm, like I can feel like the color coming back to my work again, if that makes sense. Like it was kind of black and white clocking, clock out, do what you got to do, like grind it out. It's you're just a robot. And now I'm just, I'm invigorated with what I do. And I feel like it's

Jill O'Boyle (12:50.847)
Yeah.

Jill O'Boyle (12:58.977)
Mm.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (13:04.523)
You know, it just really speaks to that level of pressure to maintain in a mold and to stay in the box. And I feel like so many people can relate to that for sure.

Jill O'Boyle (13:15.871)
Yeah, 100%. Yesterday at at church, our pastor had a phenomenal message and it was all about being a good ambassador. What does a good ambassador look like? A disciple of Jesus. And he talked about these five characteristics and it was so good. I'm going to probably record a whole podcast on it and I'm going to encourage everybody to go listen to it. But the five characters was authenticity, like being authentic.

being approachable, being humble, being consistent, and being, shoot, what was the last one? Well, I'd have to go back and look at my notes, but there's four, there's four good, there's another fifth one that's really good. But I'm like, and then it talked about what doesn't look like a good disciple of Jesus. those five things, it's gonna bug me, I can't think about the fifth one, but those five things.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (14:00.568)
Yes.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (14:10.166)
No I don't!

Jill O'Boyle (14:13.345)
are, you when you think about being a good ambassador of Jesus and being a disciple and like sharing the good news of Jesus, well, those five things, as I was writing down notes in church, I'm like, of course, they are also what makes up a good person and a good leader. Like a good leader is going to be authentic. A good leader is going to be humble. A good leader is going to be compassionate and genuine and like all these things. And so

As you're talking, I'm thinking about how in the healthcare, you know, you were forced to kind of put on this facade that, everything is great. Everything is wonderful, right? We are perfect human beings. We do no error. And I know that authentic is a big topic right now. And it's like, how do you be super authentic in the workplace without being emotional or, you know, there's all these like,

And it's like, really, I just feel like it's just being, you, be you and be truly authentic in who you are. So that just like came to me and I'm like, I think it just is validating what I hear the Holy Spirit saying is like, we need to show up this way in all areas of our life. As a mom, as a leader, as a person in my faith and my small groups, you know? So, yeah.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (15:26.648)
Yes. Yeah. then it's like to your note on the error side of things, like error to us could be detrimental. So if you don't do one thing correctly, like that could be a giant issue. it causes a lot of anxiety as professionals because like we, of course, gotten in this field because we care so much about people and we just want to help them in like their most critical time.

Jill O'Boyle (15:39.923)
Mmm.

Yeah, yeah.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (15:56.574)
but if we make a mistake as professionals, like it is, it is a very, very serious conversation with higher management and it's immediate. And it doesn't matter if you've been perfect for 10 years or all year round. If you make one mistake, it's in that kind of anxiety, it's, it's insurmountable. Like you can't, you can't breathe. So in just knowing that like, okay,

Jill O'Boyle (16:13.883)
Mmm. Yeah.

Jill O'Boyle (16:19.891)
It's yeah.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (16:24.622)
If I make a mistake as a business owner, it is on me, but like it's not to the point where I'm, I'm now feeling crippled with anxiety when I go to work. Like I know that I can forgive myself and move on.

Jill O'Boyle (16:33.653)
Right, exactly. And honestly, and I totally understand that in the healthcare world, but it's also like, gosh, that's how we grow, that's how we learn best is through our mistakes and failures and learning and equipping ourselves through that. So mean, kudos to you to see like there's a point where our mental health takes over, where our values are...

not in aligned. And so kudos to you to like see that and make that bold move to say, okay, what is best for me in this season right now? And so you just made that bold decision not long ago and stepped out and started to just build something completely different. And so talk about that. What were some of the biggest fears or challenges that you faced in starting your own business? And then how are you, how did you overcome them or how are you currently overcoming them? Cause I know they will keep coming.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (17:29.706)
Boy, do they keep coming. So just to speak on our technology thing this morning, but, no, and I will say the fear now is different. Where when I first started this, the fear was, can I do it? And then now the fear is, I never wanna go back to what it was before. So now that's my fear. And so I'm basically just running from what I just came from because I'm like,

Jill O'Boyle (17:31.841)
Yes.

Jill O'Boyle (17:36.193)
Exactly. Like we cannot control technology.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (17:57.342)
That would be the worst case scenario to me.

Jill O'Boyle (17:59.85)
Yes, yeah, but you can use that fear as a driver, really. Yeah.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (18:03.776)
it sure is. So you know, I would say that's a good way to put it. I definitely I am founding my business on my mental health is the first thing if I'm ever having a day that I'm just not there. Like it's just not there for me or my clients like I put that first. So and that you know, that is a foundation and I also can just starting like I said, I, you know,

Jill O'Boyle (18:25.087)
Yeah, good.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (18:32.078)
just started this business January 15th, 2025. So I'm very, very fresh in this, but I, you know, whatever I am able to, you know, donate as far as charity, it all does go to national organizations toward mental health. It doesn't matter who it is. Like it could be a healthcare provider, it could be children. It doesn't matter to me. I think it's something that is very important and near and dear to my heart. So that's like a very big driving force of my foundation.

Jill O'Boyle (18:38.24)
Yeah.

Jill O'Boyle (18:53.908)
Yeah.

Jill O'Boyle (19:00.968)
Yeah.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (19:01.87)
But yes, this has been a ride. It has been a roller coaster. But one of those things that like, it doesn't feel like work because you're just so excited about it. And you just have so many ideas about what it's going to be and what it's going to look like. And while when I first started out, it was like, what does this even look like? What does a business plan look like? Like, how do I get a team of people to help me? Like, what does this mean?

Jill O'Boyle (19:15.966)
Mm-hmm.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (19:30.254)
I didn't have a, you know, a blueprint. didn't have someone to look up to, like, this is what it should look like. I really am just like doing this from the grassroots and like knocking on doors and reaching out to people. And it has been very fruitful, but it has been very, very hard to like get going. And I'm very proud of myself for what I've achieved in just such a short amount of time. So, yeah.

Jill O'Boyle (19:30.411)
Mm-hmm.

Jill O'Boyle (19:44.406)
Mm-hmm.

Jill O'Boyle (19:51.476)
yeah.

Jill O'Boyle (19:55.894)
Mm-hmm. You should be. should be. And I love your social content and you're out there and you are providing relatable topics that people can relate to, especially the ones that are the young moms, or any mom, really. I mean, I have a 13-year-old and a nine-year-old, and they're not toddlers, but they still demand a lot of attention. And I love them, but they went back to school today.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (20:00.238)
Really?

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (20:20.235)
you

Jill O'Boyle (20:24.129)
and I might've had a little happy dance. And I mean, two weeks when you have two mom and dads that are entrepreneurs and trying to work, is, it's a lot. And they just think, and they think money grows on trees, right? So we are supposed to be doing something every single day of spring break. So, yeah.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (20:27.144)
you

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (20:35.04)
Yeah.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (20:40.928)
Yes, absolutely. I completely that has been a big audience for me is any type of mom for sure because I do offer a lot of you know child based tips and tricks especially after postpartum or you know whatever it may be with your children behaviorally or feeding and eating you name it I mean it goes across the spectrum. I even just got off the phone today with a gentleman who has an issue with his thumb so I mean it literally just spans from like any you know

Jill O'Boyle (20:52.917)
Yeah.

Jill O'Boyle (21:07.659)
Yeah.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (21:10.19)
But I think when you feel confident in your experience and what you've seen and what you've been through, I'm happy to just help. Like that's all I want to do. And I just want to help from here and not be up in here all the time.

Jill O'Boyle (21:17.055)
Mm-hmm.

Jill O'Boyle (21:21.345)
Right, exactly. And that's the heart behind what you do. It's like, I think with anybody when they start a business, flexibility, your own schedule, sure, that's great, right? But it's really the heart of why people start is not for that. Yeah, the heart is not behind that. The heart is because there's a real deep passion that probably God has put on your heart to go out and serve.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (21:34.286)
Going into it, yeah.

Jill O'Boyle (21:48.078)
and for your own sanity and mental health, right? So there's that too. So, but I want to talk about that, you know, these moms with these young kids, I feel like so often we, I don't know if it's, if it's the world that teaches us this, or we've been conditioned to say that this is how you have to do it and everything should look like in this box, right? But I think there's, there's this concept that you have to wait.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (21:50.796)
Yeah.

Jill O'Boyle (22:16.235)
for that right time to pursue your goals. And so what is your thought? What would you say to someone who's struggling with that kind of traditional, maybe it's not even traditional, just that mindset that they're carrying?

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (22:29.728)
Yeah, I think that God will not let you do something that, you know, he has for you. He's ready to give you the word when he's ready to give it. And I feel like I always knew deep down this was here. You just know, like you have this thing in you that's turmoiling and then something will happen and you will realize that you have two paths. You're in a fork in a road and

you're either going to listen to him and what he's put inside you and lean into faith that you can do it, or you're going to keep going down the path and then just keep driving yourself to the ground. mean, it really, I mean, it's just as easy as that. But what I will say is this is not an opportune time to be starting a business. Like I have, you know, a three and a half year old, I have one and a half year old, my husband and I were very young, new professionals. So, um, but the way that I see it is,

Jill O'Boyle (23:08.16)
Right.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (23:26.2)
I just want to be proud of something to show my kids. And I wasn't gonna be proud to show them that I did work every weekend, every holiday, every evening, and all for you. That's just not, that's not what I wanted. you know, and for what? I didn't wanna sacrifice my time. So I will say to anybody who feels like what is the right time is just, it's different for everybody.

Jill O'Boyle (23:30.293)
Yeah.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (23:52.632)
But I feel like you want it bad enough and you have a good reason to do it. Try to start dabbling into it. Try to start listening to that feeling and maybe write down in journal kind of where you're at with that. For me, I have been, like I said, for a while feeling this like it wasn't just overnight. I'm just going to start a business. It has been it has been turmoil for a while. So definitely just just be open, be humble, listen to God pray.

Jill O'Boyle (23:52.833)
Hmm.

Jill O'Boyle (24:10.867)
Right, Yep.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (24:20.626)
And if you happen to have a supportive of a husband as I have like you're gonna be fine because that that has been everything to have that rock beside me when I'm feeling like Today was a rough day, you know But you know, that's why you that's why you have a plan and that's why I always can fall back on something but The whole plan here is just to make this a lot like just a long-term dream

Jill O'Boyle (24:26.997)
Yeah.

Jill O'Boyle (24:34.239)
Yeah. Yeah.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (24:46.766)
So just go for it, believe in yourself. Try not to let the fear engulf you. Try to turn that into, no, this could really be something.

Jill O'Boyle (24:51.859)
Mm-hmm

Jill O'Boyle (24:56.233)
That's right. Yeah. I had a life coach when I was on my journey. And like you said, mine was, was a journey too. was just these subtle God nudges, connections, people that like over the course of like probably four years that eventually just started to unravel. I felt like what God was saying to me and it felt like a very big call, but I'm like, okay, I'm going to step out on this in faith, but it wasn't like boom overnight. but one of my life coaches that he connected me with,

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (25:01.998)
Yeah.

Jill O'Boyle (25:26.453)
her favorite saying that she always said was, feel the fear and do it anyway. And it's actually still my screensaver today because it's the reminder that I need every day. Like, yeah, that's fear. That's actually fear coming up. And is that a good fear? Is that a bad fear? Like, what is that fear? And what does God have to say about that, right? Is that like really just the enemy getting in the way or, know, cause there is a difference between a good fear and a bad fear. But I love that. I love that to just get curious about it and start.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (25:33.966)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Jill O'Boyle (25:55.892)
start noticing the signs, what's your heart saying and step out in it.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (26:01.294)
Yes, absolutely. And I will say like he, he has definitely moved through me so much in the last three months. Like if you allow him to talk to you and you stay silent and you just try not to think, cause I think so much of this world is about, well I do this and I do that. And this manmade feeling of like productivity and efficiency and tasks and like I'm checking all these things off and that's all great. But like this could not have been possible without him. Like,

Jill O'Boyle (26:23.499)
Yeah.

Jill O'Boyle (26:30.952)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (26:30.958)
100%. So I anytime I'm feeling like I got to grip the situation and I have to control it. I'm like, just he's in his timing, it will work.

Jill O'Boyle (26:43.135)
Yes. Yes. And it's hard. It's hard when you're getting started out because it's like, but in what timing? Like I was thinking this was happening tomorrow. Patience was one for me that I still work on, you know, I came back from, I am a event manager, project manager by nature. And so control.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (26:51.15)
you

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (26:57.089)
Yeah.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (27:06.188)
Yeah.

Jill O'Boyle (27:09.129)
It's like in my vocab, it's in my DNA. And so, woo, he has done a work and continues to work with me on like opening my hands. You I always see this picture, like, and I think he gives me that picture. It's like me, like with my hands just so tight. It's like holding on like for dear life. And he's like, what might I do, child, if you just open those, just open them a little bit and let me get in there and work with that because I can do exceedingly abundantly more than you can think or imagine. And I'm like, yeah, that's right. That's what you're got and I'm not.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (27:12.385)
Thank

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (27:33.784)
you

Jill O'Boyle (27:39.081)
So let me just set my little tiny bud down. Yeah.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (27:41.484)
Yes, just to know that like, how many nos have I received? Like a million, like a million nos. And then you can't take offense to it. Like you can't go, well I failed or like, I stopped. Like you can't go there. Like you have to just go, there's a reason for that. God knows the reason for that. Keep looking. It wasn't for you. Like I think that so much of us just kind of quits before it even gets started and just like push through those things. Like it's okay to.

not be successful at every single part of your journey and just to go what did I learn for that? Why did that not work? know? Yeah, so I think that initially I was like, you know, so discouraged by certain things, but I think that if you just see it as, you know, a learning experience and not just like, well, you're just not going to be good at this, then it will shift your mindset, you know?

Jill O'Boyle (28:17.461)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Jill O'Boyle (28:25.227)
Mm-hmm.

Jill O'Boyle (28:35.529)
Yeah, that's good. That's good. So I'm curious when you look back, you know, on your journey, because I look back on mine all the time. And I, when I think about my burnout days specifically and that moment where I just felt stuck, my, my first mode of defense, when I started just completely being in burnout, when I was completely stuck, when I felt like

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (28:46.446)
I don't know.

Jill O'Boyle (28:59.655)
this sucks really bad and I just I was so thick and I just didn't know what to do. Like my I just became defensive and then I also became muted. Like I'm a girl that loves to talk but like in my in my meetings and everything like I was a very high performer. I became very silent. Like I just didn't care anymore. I was just like done with all of it which if I look back now was not the way I should have responded at all. There's a lot of things that I would change.

how Jill handled her exit out of corporate, but I just was so done. I was done with everything. And I just was like, I don't care. don't give it. I don't give it anymore. So I'm sure women listening right now, like maybe they've been where I was. I hope you're not, but I don't know about, where were you in your career? And if somebody's listening that feels super stuck.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (29:44.002)
Yeah.

Jill O'Boyle (29:57.686)
and doesn't know where to just start. What are some maybe practical things that you did or some guidance that you would love to share for them?

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (30:05.836)
So as far as like transitioning, no one talks about the transition. And I feel like that point is very, very crucial. Just to your point, like you could have a dream in your heart and just either ignore it and just keep grinding or, know, like what, what do you do from point A to point B? How do you even get here? You've got to wrestle with yourself a little bit. Like you've got to have a real conversation with yourself in the mirror.

Jill O'Boyle (30:13.214)
Mm-hmm.

Jill O'Boyle (30:21.192)
Yeah.

Jill O'Boyle (30:24.575)
Right.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (30:32.844)
No one talks about the conversation in the mirror that you have with yourself when no one's around and you're just like, how much do you believe in yourself? Like fully, like you have to be very honest with yourself. Like, do you really, really think you can do this? Do you really think this is a you thing or do you think this is, you know, something else like try to

be extremely humble and strip yourself down. Like you really got to get to like that fundamental level. I feel like to make that transition to the point of, okay, like you've seen what will happen if you keep going down this road. And so you're either going to hop back on or you're going to make a plan. So for me, with my business, it was a little different because I work in a private service and also independent contracting. So

Jill O'Boyle (31:02.485)
Yes.

Jill O'Boyle (31:25.664)
Okay.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (31:25.998)
I to do some market research and see what that would even look like in my area. I don't know how feasible this would be in a rural area. I don't know. But in the particular area that I'm in, this is a very good place to be doing that. So I would say, do some market research, have that talk with yourself in the mirror. You got to fully commit. I always tell Pat, I'm like, is your full butt in this? Is your full butt out? Like I either need a hundred or I need zero.

Jill O'Boyle (31:39.99)
Yeah.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (31:55.074)
Which one are you? You can't be 80. You can't be 90. you gotta like fully, I mean, you gotta commit. You gotta get the printer and you gotta get the shredder. You gotta get, you know, all those little nuances. Like if you're going to do it, get serious about it, believe in yourself and start to make a plan and then find the timing that for you is right. Like I said, everybody has a different situation, but it's, it's going to come down to dropping into here.

Jill O'Boyle (32:09.459)
Mm-hmm.

Jill O'Boyle (32:23.283)
Mm-hmm

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (32:23.372)
I feel like if you spend too much time in here thinking about, how will I do this? I still don't have the answers to all of that. I'm sure that you can relate. Especially with the technology side of things, I'm still working on that a lot, but I think that my heart is in the right place. And I think that's where the decision was made that my work ethic was never gonna fail me.

Jill O'Boyle (32:29.577)
Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Totally. Totally. Yeah. Yep.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (32:47.694)
in that I knew I could just lean on my clinical experience and then learn everything along the way. I'm sure I'm making mistakes, but I'm working really hard to try not to. But yeah.

Jill O'Boyle (32:48.693)
Mm-hmm.

Jill O'Boyle (33:01.065)
Yep. Yes. I love that. So it's really, you know, dropping for those that this will be on YouTube eventually, but for those listening, you know, really Chelsea's like dropping into your heart and getting out of your getting out of your head. I love that. And but also look back on all your life experiences. mean, your experiences like God purposely placed you in certain places with certain people.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (33:05.55)
Thank

Jill O'Boyle (33:27.401)
at the right time, like doing the right things. Like those experiences, like you've basically been learning your whole life and those gifts of like that contributing that, that helper, right? That peacemaker probably a little bit, like all those like things, you know, add into your experience to have led you, I believe probably to where you are today. So I love that. And just.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (33:27.542)
easy.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (33:51.02)
Yeah, absolutely. I'm really, really excited with where it's going. like I said, I am not perfect at this by any means. I have no idea sometimes what I'm doing, but I think it really is just about reminding yourself why you're doing this and what it would look like if you weren't doing this. And then you wake up a little bit more excited, just starting.

Jill O'Boyle (34:10.657)
Yeah, exactly. It's like start to dream, start to get that vision board out. I remember, you know, I give my aunt Missy like so much credit. She probably doesn't even know this. should probably share this with her. But we tried to plan a mom and daughter. So it's my mom's sister and then her daughter. So we try to do that every so often. And we did a mom and daughter trip and we just did it here in Indy. This is like a staycation because my work was so crazy at that time. And on like the second day of our girls trip,

I mean, my phone had probably rang, I don't know. I don't even know. 100, 100 plus times throughout those two days where I'm technically off work, right? And we are out to lunch on the second day and I just break down crying. And it is over, it is over. I'm not kidding you. It is over a stupid FedEx box of pins that the client could not find at their flipping trade show. And I am bawling because I'm like, I don't know where the damn pins are.

Here's the tracking and like figure it out yourself. I mean, I am just done. am, that was when I'm in my shutdown mode and my aunt Missy looks at me in that moment. I mean, and she said, Jill, the last two days I have listened to you just talk about literally boxes and shipping and all kinds of stuff I don't even understand. as, you know, it does, it sounds so stupid on to probably somebody else listening, but she was.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (35:32.91)
I can relate to this so much.

Jill O'Boyle (35:36.098)
And so she's like, I guess the thing I want to ask you is, do you see a light at the end of the tunnel? Like, do you see a light at the tunnel staying where you are right now? Like, is it just this season? Like, is it going to be better next month? Or like, is it never a light at the end of the tunnel? And I just looked up and I said, there's never a light at the end of tunnel. And she said, okay, well then there's your answer.

Like make the plan. Cause like, I remember like I was so over it. was like, I'm just going to go, I'm going to flip. I'm just going to go work at Arby's. I just want mindless. None of the...

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (36:14.702)
I completely understand that to where it's just like, okay, what, what is this looking like for me on a day to day? Like this isn't who I am. I am not a snappy person. Like I am not a miserable person. But like when you are in the wrong flower bed, you're gonna die. Like your flower is going to fripple and it is not going to work. So just move the plant to a different environment. And all of sudden,

Jill O'Boyle (36:23.701)
Yeah.

Jill O'Boyle (36:28.288)
Right?

Jill O'Boyle (36:32.352)
Mmm.

So good.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (36:40.458)
I am shipper. I may not be happy all the time, but I am definitely not. Yeah, and I'm getting sleep and you know, just, and especially when you get that time with your family, I mean, you can't put value on that. Like you can't. And you, especially as a mom, like can understand this, like time with your kids, even if it's them screaming at the top of their lungs, like you just.

Jill O'Boyle (36:40.608)
Yeah!

Jill O'Boyle (36:46.419)
You're nourished, yeah.

Jill O'Boyle (36:55.36)
Yeah.

Jill O'Boyle (37:05.365)
Yeah. Yeah.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (37:06.806)
You know, it's just part of it and it's just being there and I really hope that anybody who feels like they have to sacrifice any form of their personal life to achieve a certain goal, it's probably not worth it. Like it's probably not. And maybe they find out too late or maybe they find out right now on this podcast and they're like, okay, like, yeah, that's me right now. And I need to really like put my foot down, you know, and it does take a lot of courage. I will say that it does take a lot of courage to go.

Jill O'Boyle (37:30.784)
Mm-hmm.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (37:35.532)
know, like, I don't want to worry about the bananas, you know, I don't want to worry about the production. I don't want to worry about all that, you know, like, or answering this person right away, like, just, you know, it's, it's all gonna work out if you just lean into the things that you truly believe in. And when you are a strong advocate for those things, if they're pressuring you to not do those things, it's probably not the right place for you.

Jill O'Boyle (37:40.417)
yeah.

Jill O'Boyle (37:53.023)
Mm-hmm.

Jill O'Boyle (38:01.395)
Exactly, yeah. my gosh, that's so good. Yeah, I would definitely, yeah, listen to this podcast. If you're feeling anything, start making that plan and then asking yourself those biggest questions, like, right? What's keeping you, like that was a great question my aunt asked me. Like, do you see a light at the end of the tunnel? And if not, okay, then what would make that better? Like if it is in that, because sometimes it is in that same environment, right? Okay, maybe you're just in the wrong role at the wrong place.

What do you need to do to talk to your HR person about a move or is there somebody that needs to take some delegation off your plate? Right. There's not like, I'm not saying if all this is happening, just get up and leave your job. I'm absolutely not saying that, but I am saying be intentional about sitting down and asking yourself some really important questions. And I think that's exactly what you were saying as well. And you know, what happened with in my story too, and probably with like with yours, it's like in that journey, you start deciding

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (38:38.54)
Thank you.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (38:42.794)
it's not.

Jill O'Boyle (39:00.181)
These are the things that I'm really, really craving that I just don't think that I'll ever be able to get if I stay in this role at this place right now for me. Like I was craving like the what caused those tears that day was I was so done. I wanted to be present. I wanted to be present in the moment with my mom, with my aunt, with my cousin. I wanted to be present in the moment when I was with dinner with my kids. I wasn't present because texts and calls and everything.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (39:09.239)
Yeah.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (39:20.014)
I'm just doing it right.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (39:27.864)
Yeah.

Jill O'Boyle (39:29.089)
And then everything was still here. Yeah, I couldn't let it go. Everything was still here. So, you know, there was a lot of things I've learned since then, boundaries and communicating boundaries. there's, there's a lot of things that you can do to manage your health. But sometimes there is that where the rubber meets the road. And so like this opportunity, this, this job, this place no longer aligns with my values. And if that's the case, then make that plan of what is that excess strategy? How does that look like? So.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (39:47.726)
Yeah.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (39:56.974)
Yeah, and I will say like there was other opportunities they were trying to shift it to where it would work and trying different things and I'm like, I don't think that's the problem. I think that there's something in here that is just not working and you know, meaning the heart. I keep forgetting that not everybody can see me but I think that if it's not working out or the you know, just like you said, the parallel moves, you know, or maybe trying a different facility. Like I said, I've worked in so many different places.

Jill O'Boyle (40:09.845)
Here. Yeah.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (40:26.976)
It was just I didn't align. I needed to do my own thing.

Jill O'Boyle (40:30.792)
Yeah. Yep. I, and, I think when you, when it gets to that point, you feel that, you know, that it's like, I know that I know that I know this is no longer going to work. And so if that's the case, then take that next step. So kudos through you to, to follow that. So before we leave, I want you to share a little bit about, you know, this, what you do now, right? How you help patients specifically, is it only in your

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (40:42.434)
you

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (40:53.707)
Yes, what did you do?

Jill O'Boyle (40:58.909)
area in person or do you do like virtual like one-to-one with your clients too?

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (41:03.894)
Yeah, so I do so many different things now and I think this is the fun part of owning a business is you can do whatever you want with it. And for me, I'm trying to get quality care. I'm not trying to run the bill up high. I'm not trying to see 20 patients in a day and do what I was doing in the hospital. You know, it's where it was, you know, it's not, it's not about that for me. It's about the balance. And so

Jill O'Boyle (41:11.296)
Yeah.

Jill O'Boyle (41:23.701)
Right.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (41:30.694)
I see patients at their homes, I see them at their work, I see them in their offices, wherever. I'm a mobile remote therapist. So I understand brick and mortars are a great private practice model, but for me as a single owner and single provider, it's just not the right move for me to have all of that overhead. It's just not. And I think it really helps my patients to be in their own environment, especially the people that I see, they're mostly dependent or they have

Jill O'Boyle (41:51.584)
Yeah.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (42:00.534)
sensory issues, behavioral issues, things like that that I need to see them in their environment for. So along with that though, I do work independently with home care companies. So they contract my service out if they can't meet their staffing needs and I come in and just help them out. A new feature, which is really awesome to my business, which I'm super excited about is I'm partnering with Daycares now.

Jill O'Boyle (42:05.777)
Mm-hmm.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (42:26.222)
And so essentially I come in and I enhance their early child learning, whether that's with their parents or their staff or offering a service to their daycare seasonally. That has been a game changer. So, and what I really love about that piece is I love digging my hands into the community around me. And I feel like that is the most rewarding thing ever to be able to say.

Jill O'Boyle (42:37.428)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (42:52.556)
I work alongside these people and I help them and their kids. And that is, that's amazing. I do a lot of other things online. Social media is something that I didn't have for a long time. And then all of sudden in January, when I started a business, I was like, I gotta figure this out. Like I know I'm 32 and I'm supposed to know what all this is, but like I didn't have it for a long time. And so I really just self taught, you know, and I...

Jill O'Boyle (42:55.253)
Yeah. Yeah.

Jill O'Boyle (43:10.913)
you

Jill O'Boyle (43:20.321)
Mm-hmm.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (43:20.672)
I a TikTok, I got an Instagram, got this and that. I just want to empower families. So whether that means giving e-guides or bundles to students or doing online courses with them, whatever it means, I just want to help and I just want to be of service. So yeah, so it's pretty multifaceted, but I feel like it's coming. It's coming, girl.

Jill O'Boyle (43:42.305)
Bye.

Jill O'Boyle (43:46.018)
It is and you know, honestly Learn from me. Do not try to don't try to control it like God God has the right timing and I just I think you're doing awesome, honestly, so Yes Well, I appreciate you sharing that so where is the best place? Is it your website or somewhere that you hang out the most for people to? Learn more or get in connection with you

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (43:53.344)
No!

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (43:57.741)
Thank you. Thank you so much.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (44:11.97)
Yeah, so I would say my website is Chelseaoboilot.com and any type of service that you could want is on there. You can also follow me on my social handles at Chelseaoboilot. It's all the same on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, you name it. You can also find me on LinkedIn. There's so many different avenues, but if you need anything, you know, I'm here to help. So even if it's just a consult, reach out to me and I am so excited to work with anybody.

Jill O'Boyle (44:39.486)
Love it. I love it. I love it Well, I'm excited that we got to connect without our spouses having to do it for us, right?

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (44:44.406)
Bye!

I'm like, I'm gonna talk to Jill today and Pat's like, look at how well that goes.

Jill O'Boyle (44:53.633)
We can do it. Well, we do not need you guys. We do. We do. Yes. Well, this has been so fun. I appreciate you. I appreciate your wisdom. And honestly, like I said before, your story is relatable. It's relatable to me. And I think it's going to be relatable to a lot of the women listening. And it's just proof, you know, for a lot of you that are listening, I hope it gives you courage that you don't have to wait.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (44:59.786)
I know we got this. Well, thank you so much, y'all.

Jill O'Boyle (45:23.531)
You really don't, you don't have to wait for the perfect time to step into what we are called to. Like God's gonna, God will never call you to something that he doesn't equip you for. Like, I can't stress that one enough. And so I just really thank you for sharing your heart today. I thank you for sharing your inspiration, your own testimony and your story. And so if you are listening, ladies, gentlemen, whoever you are, please, if this episode speaks to you, if it tugs your heart,

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (45:48.142)
This is it.

Jill O'Boyle (45:53.409)
If you know that it's your time to just make that change, just don't ignore it. Take that first step and just remember, because this is your life, it's your story, so don't waste it, right? So thank you so much. Until next time, everybody go out, make it a great day, be you, love life, and always rise up.

Chelsea O'Boyle, OTR/L (46:07.096)
Absolutely.